The following are 4Fun's league rules. If you ever have any questions
about any of these rules, please contact an Admin.
1. RESPECT -
We ask that you treat Everyone with
Respect!!! NO harassing of
members or staff, NO cursing, NO
fighting, NO disruptive behavior of any kind. Disruptive and
disrespectful behavior will not be tolerated. A warning is not compulsory; it is Admin discretion to
issue a warning or not depending on circumstances and severity. Members may be boxed without warning,
depending on the severity of the infraction. If you have a problem with someone,
PLEASE TAKE IT PRIVATE. Creating a scene in the lobby is NOT
ACCEPTABLE, if you have a problem please message an Admin, HTD, or TD and we will discuss this
issue with you. If you are asked to drop it from the lobby and continue you will be boxed 3 days minimum.
While IM's can be private, they are not always. Some members can and will send Log Chats to Admins. When this happens, this means that your private conversation is no longer private. Understand that when you are in IM's you are still expected to be respectful.
1a. AVOIDING PUNISHMENT -
Anyone found to be changing names in order to come to the lobby and cause a
disturbance will be boxed the same as if they were in their league name. It is the person, not the
ID that is a member. If a member withdraws to violate a league rule(s) and rejoins the league, they
will be boxed upon rejoining. Additionally, if you have been boxed or banned and try to rejoin the
league with a different ID, the new ID will be kicked and banned. If you have already been placed
in the box, we will extend your time in the box to account for the additional drama.
2. PRACTICE GOOD SPORTSMANSHIP -
We ask that members always use good sportsmanship when playing
in league games and tournaments. This does include saying Good Luck (gl) before a game begins
and Good Game (gg) when the game is over. Good sportsmanship also includes finishing any
game that you start. Please remember that in every game, there is going to be a winner AND a
loser and we ask that you be a good sport. Repeated issues of bad sportsmanship, including
leaving games when losing, will result in being boxed.
3. KEEP IT CLEAN IN THE LOBBY SCENE -
We expect our members to refrain from using curse words and explicit sexual
talk in the lobby and at league tables. If there is a complaint, we will ask you to please be more
careful. We understand most of the members are adults but not everyone appreciates this kind of talk
in the lobby. So just please be cautious about this kind of chat and courteous to others about this.
3a. APPROPRIATE LEAGUE NAMES -
League names are not to contain profanity or sexually explicit content. If your
ID is inappropriate, you will be asked to change your league name; failure to do so will result in
boxing and/or removal from the league.
There is a link on the Main Page of the league to report IDs that are found to be offensive. This is not
to be used just because you dislike someone, but on the very real feeling that an ID is offensive. If there
are several reports FROM MEMBERS about a members ID, the Admin team will
review it. If the Admin team then finds your league name to be inappropriate you will be asked to change
your league name, failure to do so may result in boxing and/or removal from the league.
4. IDS MUST MATCH -
Your league ID must match your Safe Harbor ID. You cannot play in a tournament if these
are not the same. If it is noticed after a tournament has begun, a staff member will get a hold of you so that
you can change your league ID immediately after the current tournament is over. You will not be allowed to join
any further tournaments until this has been taken care of. If you need help with changing your league ID, please
contact an Admin and we can change it for you.
5. ONE ID PER PERSON -
Each league member is only allowed to have one ID in the league. If we find duplicate
accounts, we will remove the ID that is used the least without warning.
5a. MULTIPLE NAMES / SAME HOUSEHOLD -
Signing up multiple names in 4Fun is NOT
allowed. If you are in the same household with another member, you need to advise an Admin
IMMEDIATELY! Please note: Even couples that are NOT living
together may be placed on the same household list at the discretion of Admin. It is
YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to inform the Admin team if you have more then 1 member
join the league from the same location (household). Click below to view Rules on same household.
CLICK HERE FOR SAME HOUSEHOLD INFORMATION
6. COMPLAINTS -
Please use the complaint box for any complaints that you may have. Do not send
IM's with a complaint unless it is an urgent situation. The Admins are only human and we might forget
your complaint otherwise. The complaint box is on 4Fun's homepage. We also welcome your comments and
suggestions and the links for all the pages are listed below for your convenience.
7. EVENTS WINNERS (Effective Dec 2011) -
4Fun has become known for the Special Events we host. Because we offer
prizes for these events, we feel it is only fair to limit how often each member can win our
events. For the major Special Events (events that are a year long or more) you can only win
these once a year. This is due to the prizes being so large. If by chance you were to come in
first and you have already won a major Special Event in the last year, you will automatically
be awarded the 2nd place prize or 3rd place if it is your 3rd major event. Now this is not from
January to December...this is if you win a major event in March you cannot win another major event
until the following March.
For the Special Events that are mid-way (3 to 6 months long) you can only win these once every 6 months.
For the regular Special Events (monthly events that are only one month long) you can only win these
once every 3 months. This means that if you win Prince or Princess in August, you cannot win another
small event until November.
The following are 4Fun's Tournament Rules. These rules are mostly specific towards tournaments and
are expected to be followed during tournaments. Please remember the League Rules always apply as well.
1. BE IN LOBBY -
Before a tournament begins, no matter how many are in, the TD will check to make sure that
all registered players are in the lobby. If someone is not in the lobby, the player will be removed from the
tournament. If the tournament is a doubles, the TD can still start the tournament, but will find a sub for the
missing player after an MIA timer is up.
2. SITTING ON TABLES (Effective February 1, 2017) -
Players cannot sit and hold a table. If a player is found to be sitting on a table to
hold it, unless pairs have gone out and they are waiting on their opponent, they will be privately messaged
and asked to relinquish the table. Failure to do so will result in being soft booted from the lobby.
3. NO VISITORS -
During tournament games, there is to be no one on the table watching your game unless
it is the TD. Members or even non-members will be asked to leave the table if they are kibitzing. Any
player that refuses to do so will be soft booted from the lobby.
4. NAME THE TABLE -
The first player or team listed in the pairings have 3 minutes to claim table and seat
choice after pairings are posted in lobby. In a doubles game, either player from the first team listed is
able to name the table and choose seats. If a player is MIA at time of pairings they are put on timer from
pairings time after the 3 minutes to name table is over.
Please post in the lobby which table you are at so that
hosting TD and your opponents can easily find you.
4a. IF YOU MISSED PAIRS (Effective February 1, 2017) -
The hosting TD and your opponent are NOT required to
message you if you have not responded once pairs have been spammed in lobby. Some TDs will message you if
they think about it, but it is their job to put you on timer if you have not gotten to the table within the 3
4b. SECOND PLAYER TO MAKE -
After the 3 minutes time has expired, the TD will then ask for the second player
or team in the match to name the table. Please note, the player must wait until the TD asks for
seconds to make.
5. GAME LENGTH TIME -
In order to keep things moving along, we have a time limit on our games: 45
minutes for singles, 60 minutes for doubles and 15 minutes for speed games. If a game goes the full
time allotted, game is to be called at the end of the current hand being played.
5a. GAME START TIME (Effective April 15, 2015) -
Start time for a game will be when the pairs are posted in the lobby. All TDs
have a time stamp on the pairs spam, and that will be the start time for all games in that spam.
6. WAIT TO HIT GO (Effective July 19, 2015) -
The player choosing the table will wait to hit "GO"
until all players are seated at the table. Accidents do happen, but if "GO" is hit before all players
are seated, the hosting TD will ask for the table to be reset.
7. TABLE SETTINGS -
All our tables are to be made as specified by the rules page of the tournament. This
will also be posted with the pairs in the lobby, so please pay attention!! After the table settings are done,
the hosting TD will briefly visit your table to check that the settings were done correctly. If they were not
done correctly, the hosting TD will ask you to reset the table. On the rare occasion that this is not caught
until a couple of hands have been played, the hosting TD will ask you to remake the table with a different end
score to finish out the game. The scores from the first table will count towards the second table, but only
the scores from finished hands.
8. READ RULES -
It is YOUR responsibility to read the rules in the
tournaments that you join. All rules pertaining to that tournament will be on the rules page. If you do not
understand the rules, ASK the hosting TD BEFORE
you begin the game. If you DQ because you did not understand the rules, we will not restart the game!
8a. RUNNING RULES AT TABLES (Effective May 1, 2015) -
Tournament Directors will not run game rules at the table unless requested by one of
the players. Rules, as stated above, are posted on the tournament pages under Rules
. Tournament Directors WILL come to the table to verify that the
table settings are correct. Please let them know at that time if you need the rules ran at the table. You
can also let them know in the lobby or via private message. PLEASE let the
hosting TD run the rules at the table if you need them. We will not restart a game if the wrong rules were ran
by a player.
9. NO RESTARTS -
The hosting TD will not restart any game!! There is only one exception to this, and that
is if there is something wrong with the rules or table that is the hosting TD's fault. The reason for this is
because we do not want to hold up tournaments unnecessarily.
10. FIRST MELD vs INITIAL MELD -
Some of the game rules have specific instructions in regards to FIRST
meld or INITIAL meld. To be clear, these are not the same thing, and
they are defined below to help you better understand.
FIRST MELD - The first time you meld, this includes all the
cards that hit the table before you have discarded. Once you discard, your first meld is over.
INITIAL MELD - The first cards to hit the table. Any cards
added after that, even before you discard, do not count towards the initial meld. Once your cards have hit the table,
your initial meld is over but you are still in your first meld until you discard.
11. GIVING WINS -
Giving wins in tournaments is not allowed. If you do not intend to play a tournament,
please do not join. As stated in earlier rules, it is considered bad sportsmanship to leave before a game
is finished. If you finish your game, and wish to award the win to your opponent you can do so because a full
game has been played.
12. PARTNERS -
In Doubles you and your partner cannot be on any other table(s) together unless a TD
(3rd party) is present. If you find you are playing a game with the same person that is your partner in a
doubles tournament, please ask the TD of the tournament to sit at your game table.
13. DIFFERENT END SCORES -
To keep things fun and interesting, occasionally the TD's will use different end scores on
tournaments. When they do this, that information will be available on the rules page of the tournament as well
as the pairings information posted in the lobby.
14. SLOW PLAY -
Slow play is taking 45 seconds to play during your turn. During your game, if you feel
that your opponent is playing too slow, please alert the hosting TD via private messaged.
PLEASE do not post about slow play in the lobby as it is rude to do so, and additionally the hosting
TD may not be able to see it if the lobby is busy. If the hosting TD is the one slow playing, please contact
another staff member that is present in the lobby.
Once a TD has come to the table, the TD will then watch and time the player we have been alerted is slow playing.
If the player is taking longer than 45 seconds, the player will receive a slow play warning and the TD will ask
the member to speed up. After 2 slow play warnings, if there is a 3rd instance of slow play, the person playing
slow will be disqualified.
During a doubles tournament, if a player is disqualified due to slow play, the hosting TD will ask the player
to leave and find a sub from the lobby to finish out the game.
15. 3 GAMES ONLY -
Players are only allowed to play in 3 League/Tournament Games at one time. This is any day
of the week and it does include playing in another lobby. While we have no preference if you are playing here and
somewhere else, you are still limited to a total of 3 games. Please note, this is not
JOINING tournaments, this is PLAYING in tournaments. As an example,
if you join the next 6 tournaments on the calendar, but only 2 are running, you are still following the rules.
However, you will need to watch and make sure that no more than 3 of the tournaments are running at one time.
15a. 4 OR MORE GAMES -
If you are found to be in more games than allowed, this includes non-league games and games in
other lobbies, you will be disqualified out of one of them. A staff member will message you and disqualify you from
the game/tournament that LEAST affects other players. If you are found to be
doing this a lot, more drastic measures will be taken.
16. LIMITING GAMES -
If there are 5 reports of a person being in 3 games and receiving 2 slow play warnings in any
of those games, he/she will be limited to 2 games. If a player is limited to 2 games and there are 5 additional
reports of that person being in 2 games and receiving 2 slow play warnings in any of those games, he/she will be
limited to 1 game.
Additionally, if you are found to be frequently playing in more games than allowed, you will also be limited. The
first limit we place will be for a maximum of 2 games. Continual occurrences of playing in more games than allowed
will then limit you to only 1 game.
If a player is limited, he/she will be able to extend their options to play more games again after a period of 6
months without being disqualified from a game for slow play.
17. BOOTS AND MIA'S -
In a tournament you are allowed 3 boots from Safe Harbor Games (on the 4th boot you will
be disqualified) or 10 minutes (5 minutes for speed and doubles games in progress) of missing time whichever
comes first. In a doubles game, if you have booted 3 times or been gone a total of 5 minutes, the TD will
find a sub to finish the game.
Please Note: a boot is defined as being gone for more than one minute.
Boots less than one minute will not count as a boot.
MIA's are not to be used as an excuse for holding up tournament play. A game will still be limited to the times
of 45 minutes for singles, 60 minutes for doubles, and 15 minutes for speed games regardless if there has been
boots or MIA players.
A doubles team must have one original player in order to find a sub for an
PLEASE NOTE: If the TD cannot find a sub in the lobby after 3 mins of asking, then the TD will sit
and finish out the hand regardless if the TD is already playing (if TD is playing on that table, they must still
search for a sub).
18. BRB -
Players are allowed only 3 be right backs during a game. If you go BRB, please post BRB
in the chat of the game table. When your opponent says BRB, if you feel that they will not be back within 3
minutes, please alert the hosting TD right away. When a player says BRB and they are gone for longer than 3
minutes, we cannot put a timer on them from the BRB unless we are alerted to when they say BRB. After being
gone for longer than 3 minutes an MIA timer will be started from the time you said BRB or from the time that the
hosting TD was alerted. This time will count towards your total MIA time allowed.
19. TIMERS FOR SUBS -
In doubles tournaments, the timer to get a sub is 5 minutes, if game has already started (10 minute
timer if game has not started). If a player does not return after the MIA timer runs out, then the
Hosting TD is to go to lobby and get a sub; taking the first
person to say "ME" in the lobby. The hosting TD will then thank
the player (acknowledging them) and direct them to the table to sub.
Please let the hosting TD do their job in find and acquiring a sub. Do not name the table or ask for
a sub ahead of the hosting TD as they are the ones that keep the time and find the sub. Additionally,
there will be some players that are unable to sub due to too many games or already being in the
tournament. In those situations, the TD will know what is going on more so than the players.
If the case of the original player returning before the game is over, if the original player started
the game, the sub will finish the hand that is being played and let original player have their seat
back. However, if the sub started the game, the sub will finish the game and the original player
can continue on the next round if their team advances. This is done because the same people that
started the game, must be sitting in the same seats and be the ones to finish the game for the game
to be rated.
PLEASE NOTE: If the TD cannot find a sub in the lobby after 3 mins of asking, then the
TD will sit and finish out the hand regardless if the TD is already playing (if TD is playing on that
table, they must still search for a sub).
20. TABLE TALK -
Table talking is defined as discussing anything about the cards you have in your hand or
any plays that will affect the outcome of the hand being played. You can discuss cards from previous hands,
such as "Sorry P, did not have any Kings". Asking "out p?" is ok, during game play, but please try to limit
answers to either yes or no. Anything that could affect how the hand is played is considered table talking.
Table talking is a hard subject. Some areas can be very iffy about whether or not it was table talk. And there
are other areas, that are not table talk, but can appear to be. As an example, telling your partner to not
discard Queens because you need them IS table talk. Posting at the beginning
of the hand, 7s to meld, 4s to nasta, nasta 7s to go out is a reminder of the game you are playing and
IS NOT table talk. If you are concerned that your opponents are table
talking, please contact the hosting TD. If the TD feels that someone has table talked they will issue a warning
to the team, if the player continues to table talk then the team will be disqualified.
21. ACCUSATIONS OF CHEATING -
If you suspect a player or team has cheated in a game against you,
PLEASE notify an admin about this and DO NOT take it public either at the table or to the lobby. If you
are caught publicly accusing a person or team you will be placed in the box for 1 day the 1st time, 3 days the 2nd
time, 7 days the 3rd time, and 10 days for all further offenses. Accusing someone of cheating is not something
we take lightly. Just because someone is a good player does not mean they are cheating.
22. CHEATING / MESSAGING YOUR PARTNER -
You are NOT to contact your partner about anything during
a doubles game. Anyone found to be messaging their partner about their cards during a game will be asked to leave
the table, boxed, and a sub acquired for them. If your partner responds to the message the entire team will be
disqualified and both parties boxed. If someone attempts to cheat by messaging you, it is
YOUR responsibility to notify an Admin RIGHT AWAY! If we receive
numerous reports of cheating against you, consequences can range from warnings, to being placed on the same household
list, to boxing or even being kicked from the league depending on the number and severity of the complaints. A boxing
can range from 1-90 days depending on the content of the messages that are received by admin.
23. DISQUALIFICATIONS -
Everyone does it from time-to-time. When a DQ happens, please stop playing. You do not
need to call the TD to the table unless there is a dispute of the DQ. If there is no dispute, please post in
the lobby of the win or loss. You may be asked what happened, all that is needed is that it was a DQ. If
there is a dispute to the DQ, do not close the table and please contact the hosting TD to verify if a DQ did
happen. On some occasions, an Admin (or HTD if no Admin available) may be called to table to assist the TD
with the call. The decision made will be final and failure to proceed as
directed could lead to boxing.
If you have a dispute to any call made in a game you should screen shot the issue and submit it to the Head Admin.
Disqualifying on purpose is not allowed and will be reported. If a member has too many reports of disqualifying
on purpose, or it seems to be a repeated occurrence they will be boxed.
For Complaints concerning tournament issues please click below!!
Be courteous to your host and players and always use good sportsmanship!!!!
League Games do not happen often in 4Fun, but when they do, here is the information on how the league games work.
1. START BY ASKING -
If you do not have time for a tournament, or you are waiting and want to play a league game
in between, you first start out by asking in the lobby for someone to play with you. It is a golden rule in 4Fun
to accept the first player(s) that say "me" in the lobby.
2. KNOW THE RULES -
Before starting a league game, first agree upon a game with all the players involved. Then,
make sure that all players know the rules of the game that you are playing. You can do this by asking a TD to
spam the rules on the table for you, or by getting the rules from the Players Rules page, which is linked below.
CLICK HERE FOR PLAYERS GAME RULES
3. REPORT LOSS -
Immediately after finishing the game, please go to the main page of the league and report
your loss. It is the considerate thing to do since you had agreed to play the game with your opponents. On the
main page of the league click on STANDINGS and the
Report Loss link is the last link in the sub headings. For a direct link click below.
PLEASE NOTE: If you are not signed in to the main page you will need to do so in order to report
the loss. If you are having a problem reporting the loss, please contact an Admin as soon as possible and we
will assist you.
PLEASE ALSO NOTE: Sometimes when you report a loss you will be "flagged" as cheating. This is
an error that sometimes occurs, it is nothing against you. If this happens, please let an Admin know and he/she
will report the loss for you if it did not go through.
4. UNREPORTED MATCHES -
If an opponent fails to report their loss please kindly remind them to do so. After 24
hours, if the loss has still not been reported, please file an unreported match claim. When an unreported match
is filed against you, you will receive an email from MyLeague informing you of this report. Please check your
game stats to see if this match was reported for you; if not you can report your losses at this time. When league
operations checks into the unreported match, if they find it has not been reported then they will report the match.
They will notify you that they have reported the match. If it is your first offense you will also receive a warning
and no penalty, 2nd offense you will receive a final warning and no penalty, and for a 3rd offense you will receive
a penalty (mark on your account). For all future offenses you will receive a penalty (mark on your account), be
dropped on the ladder, and be boxed for 3 days each time.
Report an Unreported Match
If you have any questions about League Games or unreported matches,
please feel free to contact one of our League Operations Admins.
(Amber) stevesprettyangel_8 / stevesangel_8
Last Updated: January 31, 2017